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WTF??? Plus the obligatory Heroes reaction post 
8th-Oct-2007 10:03 pm
Sylar S2 promo pic

Actual conversation overheard tonight between two clerks at Zipps Liquor over by the U, about a guy who had just turned in an application:

Clerk A: Dude, he's in my [something] class and he's gay.  I'm telling you, he's gay.
Clerk B: He seems like a nice guy.
Clerk A: Oh, he is!  He's a lotta fun to talk to.
Clerk B: He smelled nice too.
Clerk A: Dude...he's gay!

Sylar on a beach? Not nearly as irritating as I'd expected.  I have to hand it to the NBC promo monkeys for not only using different takes for the commercials, but for managing to cut things three weeks in a row to make them seem irritating only for me to discover that they work just fine in the episode.  Candice, on the other hand?  Even more irritating than I'd expected.  If she had made it out of this episode alive, I would currently be typing an insane ranting letter addressed to Tim Kring.

Why am I talking about everything but Sylar?  Because I'm trying to avoid admitting how much it bothered me to see Sylar's face when he realized the condition he was really in.  I seriously need to get a new hobby to distract myself from how emotionally invested I am in this character.  God...MY POOR SWEET MURDEROUS BABY!  Ahem.

And let me just ask you: what was your first thought when Candice turned into Sylar himself?  Was it, "Wow...the writers have paid attention to various online boards and picked up on the twin fantasies, haven't they?"  (Well, OK.  That was that was my second thought.  My first one was, "Wow...the writers have paid attention to various online boards and picked up on the coat fetishists, haven't they?")

Peter?  You were kind of winning some brownie points with me.  Don't go all emo and dependent and make me hate you again. 

I don't know...Hiro's storyline is really beginning to drag.  It's not the storyline itself; the way it's being presented is what's getting to me.  It feels too much like being told instead of being shown.  SHOW, DON'T TELL.  I actually started liking Kensei a bit though, after his freakout about having an ability.  I didn't dislike him before, but...meh.  I was totally spoiled about the character, plus blonde-haired blue-eyed men are SO not my bag (cf. Mylar, forsquilis, obsession with).

Dear sweet Baby Jesus, much as West bugs me, I would like to thank You for ensuring the disappearance of the Stolen Nissan Ro Storyline.  (And yes, I realize the name of the car is the Rogue, but I swear that even now, every time they pronounce it, it sounds like Ro to me.  Of course at this point it will be a cold day in hell before I ever buy a Nissan.  Unless, of course, the 2009 Nissan Guinan gets 45 miles to the gallon in the city.)

So is anyone still seriously entertaining Matthinder fantasies after this? I admit I was a little impressed that Matt showed that large a quantity of balls in telling Mo that he wants him to stay the hell away from his own apartment, but I think he's made it pretty clear that his OTP is him and Molly.  (Poor Agent Hanson...)

Wait a minute...did Peter just make a Sylar face while Force-choking that guy?  Seriously, isn't that the same look Zachary Quinto had during the snowglobe scene in The Hard Part?  Interesting.  Maybe the people who argue that Emo-Boy is actually the best candidate to begin to understand what's in Sylar's head, and reach out to him, have a point.  

I'll save my thoughts on Candice's death, because I have actual serious thoughts on it and her that I want to get in order.  For now, I'll just say I don't feel bad at all over it.  But...look, it doesn't matter whether Sylar was accidentally or deliberately infected with the virus.  I still do not fucking believe that the Company left him alone with only CANDICE as a guard.  If they underestimate him that badly--he's batshit enough at this point that I could now actually see him killing a special just out of fury--then I'm not sure Mohinder has as much to worry about as he believes.

I actually lean towards a theory that Sylar accidentally caught the virus, fouling up the plans of the Company to use him for something.  Imagine Mohinder's horror if he ever learned that the Company is providing him with the resources he needs to find a cure in order to save Sylar's life.  That the work he's doing in the lab will be used to benefit the man who murdered his father and tried to kill him.  The writers have come up with a far better level of angst than I ever imagined.

A painting of HRG dead.  OK, my first thought was total relief because for a second I was afraid that the painting would show Mohinder dead.  That would be utterly unacceptable.  My second thought: "So is that going to be the theme of every book of Heroes?  'Paintings By Isaac That Don't Come True?' Grrr."

And a final word on the episode, from my best friend likealongforgottendream: "Sylar's lost his abilities?  Too bad Peter absorbed them all. He won't do anything fun with them."


Comments 
9th-Oct-2007 05:12 am (UTC)
MMMMMM SYLAR. Sorry, just had to get that out of the way first.

ITA with what you said about Hiro's storyline. I didn't like how they basically replayed all of the E1/2 scenes, that just seemed inane. I heart Kensei, but it's ridiculously obvious that Hiro's making a mistake by staying in the past. He's going to royally fuck up the friendship he just established with Mr. Sword Saint.

Too much Claire, not enough Sylar. I'm annoyed with how they keep erratically switching West from being an ass to being sweet and sympathetic. IMO, it's not being done properly, unlike someone else we know of...

I'm against Noah getting killed off, but I'm interested in seeing how that storyline will play out. I thought it was a good way to end the episode.

There's an argument in the Episode thread now over whether Peter was channeling Sylar vs. him being justified in choking the dude because he had just been shot at. Even upon first viewing, it was blaringly obvious that Peter was making the Sylar face ala snowglobe scene. Plus, Caitlin had to snap Peter out of his own little world - he was clearly having his own little powertrip there. This has become an interesting point in the episode for me, now that I've stopped flailing around about Sylar (well... sort of.)

I LIKE your theory about Sylar catching the virus and that Mohinder would have had to cure Sylar, had he not escaped. Not only does it make an angsty, interesting plotline; it also makes a lot of sense, seeing as how Sylar's wounds were being treated and Candice was talking on the phone to someone with authority (Bob?)

I can't wait to see the episode commentary on this. I am hoping and crossing my fingers that at least Zach is in it and when they show the Candice/Sylar illusion, someone (Zach) makes a joke about them originally wanting it to be Mo... but that it would have been too obvious so they switched it to Sylar. And we got a glimpse of The Coat! Love it :D

Finally, I lol'd at what your friend said. It's funny because it's true. Also, WTF is wrong with Clerk A? Homophobic much? Or just in denial?

I apologize for the incoherency and length :P
9th-Oct-2007 06:42 am (UTC)
P.S.: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! *Gives you ice cream cake with sprinkles on top*
10th-Oct-2007 04:34 am (UTC)
There's an argument in the Episode thread now over whether Peter was channeling Sylar vs. him being justified in choking the dude because he had just been shot at.
I've been wondering too if it was really channeling Sylar or an effect of the amnesia. One of the things that's been asked about Sylar and Peter is, just how much of their personality and the paths they took is due to their environment? Peter doesn't remember anything about Nathan or Claire. He's alone and just trying to survive, he has no one to help him, and now this jerk is seriously messing with him...but he's suddenly got the ability to do something about it. That's not that really that different from Gabriel Gray's emotional state when Chandra pulled the rug out from under him. I'm not sure if Peter was channeling Sylar because he was using Sylar's TK, or if it's just that they are far more alike than anyone wants to admit, and therefore when Peter doesn't remember he's a schmoopy caring nurse, he has similar emotional reactions. Which...could actually make for an interesting plot if he began to develop empathy for Sylar.

I HAVE GOT TO WATCH THE COMMENTARY!!! IF ONLY TO SEE ZACHARY'S INSANE SHOES!!!

And thank you for the birthday happiness! :0)
9th-Oct-2007 09:48 am (UTC)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you'll have a great day :)


As for Heroes:

what was your first thought when Candice turned into Sylar himself?
Damnit, that's not Mohinder...

I don't know...Hiro's storyline is really beginning to drag.
It annoyed me that in order to get Ando involved they found it necessary to spent precious airtime on a recap for the Hiro/Kensei story we've seen the past weeks

"Sylar's lost his abilities? Too bad Peter absorbed them all. He won't do anything fun with them."
So true...

BUT OMG HURTING SYLAR \o/
10th-Oct-2007 04:40 am (UTC)
Aw...thank you for the birthday wishes! :0)

My poor sweet little baby. And, damn you, Zachary Quinto! It's just disturbing how upsetting it was to see Sylar's face when he realized what was really going on. It wasn't the screams of pain afterwards, it was that initial look of...helplessness. Sylar should not be helpless and lost. Of course, it didn't take him long to get back into control, but still.

Also? Forgot to add that I laughed quite hard when THE OPENING MOMENT was Bob asking Mohinder about Sylar...
10th-Oct-2007 06:39 am (UTC)
How was your birthday? Did you spent it rewatching those 2 Sylar scenes? (A)

You know what's disturbing? How much I enjoyed his confusion, pain and frustration. Gah, I love me some angst ♥

I so mentioned that Bob & Momo moment in my rec. He is such a tease...
9th-Oct-2007 12:48 pm (UTC)
"So is that going to be the theme of every book of Heroes? 'Paintings By Isaac That Don't Come True?' Grrr."

ROTFL!! I said pretty much that same thing to Rick this morning. *YAWN* Been there. Done that.
10th-Oct-2007 04:47 am (UTC)
I could live without HRG if he was killed off. But still...I just don't see it happening. I'm not sure how I feel about the paintings, anyway.

What I did find interesting about that, though, is that based on what we saw in Company Man, there's no way HRG can be an Elder Hero. So either one of the paintings has multiple victims, or there's more than one remaining Elder Hero who isn't depicted as dying. I kind of like the thought that there might be a conspiracy within the conspiracy, rather than just one Elder Hero killing the others off.

Also...when Bob brought Mohinder another sample to work on? I had the momentary thought that it was Sylar's blood. Which would make for a great chilling moment in an episode or two, if Mohinder started looking at genetic patterns in the samples he's been brought and suddenly realizes that he's seen this one before. (I still think that just as Sylar was the key to figuring out Chandra's research, he needs to be the key to figuring out Mohinder's virus research as well. I like symmetry.)
10th-Oct-2007 12:05 pm (UTC)
I had the momentary thought that it was Sylar's blood.

My thought wasn't momentary. The moment he handed him the vial (which really, when they typically take the time to show you such a thing, it means something), I said outloud to Rick and the kid "That's totally Sylar's blood." And I still believe it. I think Mohinder is going to have to know Sylar is alive before Sylar actually just shows up on his doorstep with Maya!

I cannot *wait* for the coming Sylinder!
10th-Oct-2007 12:21 am (UTC)
And let me just ask you: what was your first thought when Candice turned into Sylar himself?
Mine were "No they didn't!" followed by "Oh man! I think I just read this last week!" Were either of those the appropriate responses? Maybe not, but to be fair, I was having a most difficult time focusing. Would I gladly take two fully clothed Sylars over one half-naked, dripping wet Peter? Every time, my friend, every time. (I will aslo admit that, before she brought the MeYay, I was totally thinking 'They would not have her turn into Mohinder, would they?"

I didn't dislike him before, but...meh.
Maybe my spoiled status was coloring my perception, but I have liked him from day one. Of course now that I have seen what his power is, I have high hopes for him, whoever he turns out to be.

plus blonde-haired blue-eyed men are SO not my bag (cf. Mylar, forsquilis, obsession with). Wait. Did I write that? It was like they cast the entire show with me in mind. They can add all of the blonde-haired blue-eyed women they want, just leave Zachary, Adrian, Milo, Sendhil, James and Shalim alone. Oh Heroes, what a pretty, pretty show you are. [/shallow]

So is anyone still seriously entertaining Matthinder fantasies after this?
Wait. There were people who were into this... seriously? Man, I really need to drop by the HoYay thread more often.

10th-Oct-2007 04:53 am (UTC)
Would I gladly take two fully clothed Sylars over one half-naked, dripping wet Peter?
Anyone who wouldn't, should probably be committed. Or at least kept far, far away from me, so that I don't feel the need to slap them.

Wait. There were people who were into this... seriously? Man, I really need to drop by the HoYay thread more often.
There are people who squee all the time about how cuuuuute of a family they make. I just grit my teeth because I never seriously thought it would last. But after this week, people were going on about the smoldering hawt look Matt gave Mohinder after Molly jumped into his arms. Seriously? Did you people watch the same show as me? Because that look may have been smoldering, but only in the sense that "The Burning Bed" was smoldering.
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