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The obligatory Heroes reaction post 
5th-Nov-2007 11:58 pm
Sylar S2 promo pic

I hadn't mentioned this before, but when we first glimpsed the paintings, a number of people were discussing whether the guy holding the gun was Sylar or Peter.  I thought...???  The guy in the painting clearly had curly hair, and skin about 5 shades too dark to be either of them.  So I was very happy to get confirmation that it was indeed Mohinder.

I still keep feeling like they're randomly beating the characters with a stupid stick.  HRG really should have given Mohinder tips on how to be an agent, like, "Don't talk loudly about how you're working to bring the Company down, while standing in the middle of a Company facility, with the damn door wide open".

And Peter is being stupid, too!  My God, Peter, don't you know anything??? SHOUTING ATTRACTS ZOMBIES!!!

I honestly don't think they could make West any more stalkery to me if they tried.  Hey...Claire just pointed out that it's rude [and creepy] for him to show up at her house like that!  There may be some hope for her after all.

I refuse to recap Parkman.

Wow.  Hiro recovered from that opium even more quickly than Sylar recovers from curare.

Peter is really bothering me because although I do not like him... I didn't previously think he was stupid.  However, he gets dragged into an involuntary industrial-strength shower after finding a notice about an "evacuation order", and then has someone ask why he shows no symptoms of infection...and yet he still asks what's going on, in a voice that makes it plain he has absolutely no clue?  Also, I think they missed a prime chance to go the Enterprise decon chamber route here.  I mean, they kind of already had a blue light going on.  They just needed to put Caitlin and Peter in skimpy underwear and have them rub gel on each other.  What?  It would have been hotter than T'Pol and Captain Quantum.

And speaking of Caitlin, my first thought upon hearing of her deportation order was, "Wow...talk about servicing the fangirls.  I know several people who will rejoice over this sudden and painless exit."  But then my second thought was, "Wait a minute...they're living in quarantine, but yet they deport people? Doesn't that mean intercontinental travel is going on?  Which increases the chance that new strains of the virus will be brought into the city?  I'm just sayin'."  This was also the point where D texted me to say, "Hey, do you think maybe that decon shower washed away her fake Irish accent?"

Once again, I refuse to recap Parkman. 

D.L. Hawkins!  I'm so glad you came back, even if you were just here for a moment and you were merely a Mauryllusion.

Back to the future.  Holy shit.  When the Shanti virus goes to bed, it checks under the bed for Angela Petrelli.

Mr. Muggles!  You make every scene better!  And wow.  West looked genuinely upset.  Everyone had talked me into thinking he was a Company plant...perhaps everyone was wrong to do that.  Do you hear me, everyone?  Huh?

Hiro.  Gunpowder.  Lantern.  Oh, for pete's sake.  This is reminding me of so many shows and movies where the woman has the gun and just lets the bad guy walk up to her and take it away from her.  THROW THE DAMN LANTERN DOWN AND BLOW THE PLACE UP!  Sarah Jane Smith would do it, and she can't even teleport to safety!

So why exactly is Bob spilling the beans about Peter to Nathan?  Please tell me there is some method to his madness, because it kind of felt like he was only telling Nathan because it was convenient for the plot for Nathan to find out about Peter right now. Also, I'm liking Nathan more all the time; he continues to convincingly feel as if he's barely holding on to his sanity. 

Parkman saves the day.  Look, show, you've already made me dislike him so intensely that I cannot feel any happiness or interest in this, because he has not previously demonstrated any sort of ability to learn from his mistakes.  Therefore, I can't feel any emotion when he claims to feel bad for having manipulated Molly into the position she's in now, or any hope that he might actually extend his ability and do something useful with it, because his track record tells me that in two weeks he'll be stupid again.  After all, this is the same man who, in 5YG, watched "Nathan" pull Peter through a solid door...and yet turned around and kept following his orders.

I was actually a bit disappointed that Niki didn't stab Nathan with the virus needle.  Nothing against Nathan; I just thought it was going to fit in with Angela's statement that Nathan died in the first outbreak.  I realize that it doesn't preclude Nathan contracting it and dying anyway, but I briefly thought that Nathan being stabbed was going to be the first (if somewhat obvious) brick in that future wall.

Bob wants Mohinder to bring Claire in.  Wow.  Just wow.  Plot elements finally starting to lead to a conclusion organically and yet in a totally unexpected way.  I knew that HRG's ordering Mohinder to do things he felt were wrong/bad would end up pulling them apart, but I never thought it would pay off this particular way.  And yet, despite being irritated with Mohinder for betraying HRG to someone who isn't any more trustworthy...I could completely understand what led him to do it, and it felt like a decision he would come to.  Also, I was just saying this afternoon that right now, although he may have people he's allied with, Mohinder is still almost as emotionally isolated as he was when he first encountered "Zane Taylor" last season: he still doesn't have any real friends.  (I don't count Parkman as a friend: pretty much every scene they've been in, they've been in conflict.)  Tonight just intensified that.  I'll be interested to see how that plays out.

Previews for next week. One of these things is not like the other...  I'm gonna be brutally honest: I have NOT been wondering "who Elle is".  In fact, I had forgotten she was ever on the show.


Also, all through the episode, they kept running an Amber Alert for a teenager who apparently was forced into a car by her estranged boyfriend in St. Paul this afternoon.  That makes it really hard to relax and enjoy a silly fictional TV show.

Comments 
6th-Nov-2007 01:36 pm (UTC)
Everyone had talked me into thinking he was a Company plant...perhaps everyone was wrong to do that.

My husband was certain he was a Company plant, and then after last night, he was pissed as hell that it seems as if they're trying to make him out to be an innocent now. Which, with as creepy as the character is, just *doesn't* work. I don't care how hard they try - I will not accept West as anything but WRONG.
6th-Nov-2007 04:08 pm (UTC)
A couple of people online decided he must be a Company plant, and I was all, "Whatever, he's just a creepy little freak." But then several weekends ago--before Fight or Flight aired--I had dinner with a couple of friends and they insisted that he had to be, and laid out all the reasons why he probably was, and I thought, "Wow, maybe there's something to this after all." (It was kind of like being arguing into seeing Mylar, only creepy.)

But now he's suddenly freaked out to discover HRG is there? That actually makes him even creepier to me, if he seriously is just a guy who "likes" Claire. Seeing him behave like that to Claire because he's acting on orders from the Company to wrap her around his little finger, is one thing. But if he's genuinely a stalker? Eck.
6th-Nov-2007 02:15 pm (UTC)
Yay, someone else who still feels that Mohinder is still emotionall isolated, even with Matt and Molly in the picture. At first I was pissed off at him at the end but the more I thought about it, the more his decision makes sense.
4 more eps to go, here is hoping the boring twins make a quick exit or at least stop sucking the life out of Sylar. I've never seen so many posts where people were actually shocked that they were gald he wasn't in an episode. That makes me sad.
6th-Nov-2007 04:40 pm (UTC)
Everyone kept talking about what a "cute family" Matt, Mohinder and Molly made, and I thought they were all crazy. At first, I thought it was because I don't like Matt Parkman. But I got to thinking about it and realized they AREN'T a family. Matt is clearly jealous when Molly gives Mohinder attention. And we've never seen Matt and Mohinder just relax and be friendly. Matt is always angry, and Mohinder is either angry or condescending. They're just working together to protect Molly, because they both love her, but that doesn't mean they like each other. And yes, Molly loves Mohinder, but he has to protect her, she's not a friend who he can confide in and get support and advice from.

I still think it was kind of stupid for Mohinder to tell the Company about HRG, since he has no idea what they're up to. But HRG told Mohinder that he would protect Mohinder as long as he was alive...and now Mohinder knows that's not true. I just really hope that Peter and Sylar show up in New York at the same time. Mohinder could trust Peter, but it looked like the only thing Peter remembered about his past is his mother. Mohinder can't trust Sylar, but I do think he had a rapport with "Zane". I think it could be really interesting to see Mohinder, feeling alone, doing things that he thinks are wrong but he's justifying it by saying "it's for the greater good", and then Peter and Sylar show up. And Peter says that if they don't do SOMETHING to find a cure the whole human race will die, and Sylar says, "See, Mohinder? It's survival, evolutionary imperative, just like what I did." I would love to see him dealing with that kind of moral greyness.

But even I am starting to wonder why Sylar is still on the show. I figured that even though his story didn't seem to have any connection to the others, when he showed up in New York, he would end up being the key Mohinder needed to figure out a vaccine. But now it looks like Claire is going to be the key. So...what is he going to do, besides try to get his powers back and keep on murdering people? I'm completely bored with his storyline. And I love Sylar!!!
6th-Nov-2007 05:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it killed me when they said that Mohinder's blood wasn't the cure anymore and that Claire was the key. I knew right there and then that Sylar's story was pretty much said and done and won't be progressing from now on except to get to New York. I see so many possibilities with this character, what about him mastering all of his abilities, his path to become the best evolution has to offer, they haven't even scratched the surface of this yet and all we got was a lame ass roadtrip.
The best thing to do is temporarily remove Sylar from the storyline until somewhere in volume three and bring him back with this powers dammit!!
7th-Nov-2007 05:57 am (UTC)
Yeah, it killed me when they said that Mohinder's blood wasn't the cure anymore and that Claire was the key. I knew right there and then that Sylar's story was pretty much said and done and won't be progressing from now on except to get to New York.

I'm also afraid that this is what's going to happen. I don't actually want Sylar to be killed off, but he's being wasted right now. I'm still hoping Mohinder will end up needing him to find a vaccine, just because I want to see the angst that would be involved with that!

(And also, I'm tired of watching the men on this show run around to protect Claire. Especially when she's being a pouty little brat...)
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7th-Nov-2007 05:22 am (UTC)
I just didn't post it because I was like, "maybe it's just me?"

No, I think you're hardly the only one. I don't actually WANT him gone. It's just...his storyline has become so BLAH, when last year he had me on the edge of my seat. He wasn't in this week, and next week is the flashback ep, so his current story won't be moving forward. He's got so much potential, I don't understand why they're not using it. I don't demand that he be the focus of every episode...but I think they could have found something a lot more interesting for him to do, than what he's doing.
6th-Nov-2007 04:41 pm (UTC)
I hadn't mentioned this before, but when we first glimpsed the paintings, a number of people were discussing whether the guy holding the gun was Sylar or Peter. I thought...??? The guy in the painting clearly had curly hair, and skin about 5 shades too dark to be either of them. So I was very happy to get confirmation that it was indeed Mohinder.
It honestly never occurred to me that it would be anybody but Mo.
6th-Nov-2007 05:02 pm (UTC)
I've been surprised how many people have thought it was either Peter or Sylar, though. I think Erin even said so in her recap at TWoP. I looked at it and immediately thought, "Wow...Mohinder is always hot when he's got a gun, I can't wait to see how this painting comes true." (I tell you, Sendhil Ramamurthy put me under some kind of spell in that episode.)

Hey! I thought I had uploaded a Mohinder icon! And yet it is not there! This is unacceptable!
7th-Nov-2007 04:07 am (UTC)
Neither of them have hair nearly that long! I don't get it...I always thought it was Mo.
6th-Nov-2007 07:16 pm (UTC)
Man, I love Mo, but he's been hit with the stupid stick lately. Honestly, I spent the whole episode groaning at his stupidity. Or at Peter's chest, but that's a whole other story...

But, um, the Adam Monroe reveal? I was spoiled and I was still like WIN. Because Peter + Adam = POTENTIAL, heh.
7th-Nov-2007 05:30 am (UTC)
Man, I love Mo, but he's been hit with the stupid stick lately.

I can actually deal with what he did at the end of the episode because he has a track record of making bad decisions when he's freaked (calling the police on Sylar, anyone?) and I think he feels like he can no longer trust HRG. But he's done quite a few things this season that have made me go, WTF??? If he keeps on this way, I fear for his safety when (WHEN, RIGHT, KRING?!?!) he crosses paths with Sylar again. Even if Sylar is still powerless.

I wasn't into Adam, but...I'm not into blonde men. :0)
7th-Nov-2007 01:11 am (UTC)
but when we first glimpsed the paintings, a number of people were discussing whether the guy holding the gun was Sylar or Peter.
Wait. People though what? I mean, if the hair was not the first dead giveaway, clearly the hair should have provided some clue. Wow people, you never cease to amaze me.

I still keep feeling like they're randomly beating the characters with a stupid stick.
So perhaps season two is both the season of Love and the season of Stupid. Is there some sort of correlation? I have already expressed my thoughts on how romance renders previously capable, intelligent characters useless.. and I have explained to people on a few occasions how Molly is, in a way taking the place of Mohinder's season two love interest, so it must follow suit that, in his efforts to protect her, he would be rendered idiotic. Either that or Parkman's stupidity is contagious!

There may be some hope for her after all.
After her actions at the end of the episode, I am not so sure about that.

I refuse to recap Parkman.
I considered taking a similar stance, but I had so many things that needed to be said. I had to make sure that it was known that I did not fall for his "oh, woe is me!" speechifying. Especially as he was speechifying to a girl who was in a coma thanks to him! I also agree entirely with the entire paragraph beginning with 'Parkman saves the day." Just because he finally managed to do one thing right does not erase 28 episodes of staggering stupidity. I do not care if he has daddy issues.. who on this show doesn't? All I know is that I hated him before the speech, and I hate him still.

Holy shit. When the Shanti virus goes to bed, it checks under the bed for Angela Petrelli.
Score! That is one of those things you read and go, "Man, why didn't I think of that!" Also, it is entirely true.

Everyone had talked me into thinking he was a Company plant...perhaps everyone was wrong to do that. Do you hear me, everyone? Huh?
I am doing it all backwards! That is the scene that convinced me he has to be a Company plant! I am late to the bandwagon on this movement, but now I embrace it whole-heartedly.

Also, I'm liking Nathan more all the time; he continues to convincingly feel as if he's barely holding on to his sanity.
This is exactly what I love about season two Nathan (that and his hair, but that is another issue for another time). It is like he is playing two roles: one the in-charges, down-to-business Nathan of old, and then the barely-together Nathan right below the surface. When he shows up in a scene, you never know which one you are going to get. This reminds me of another (>rarely seen and sorely missed) character who I think we both have a soft spot for. That's right... Micah! No? Alright then.

I was actually a bit disappointed that Niki didn't stab Nathan with the virus needle.
At first I could not believe what I was reading. Then I continued on. I can really say no more on this matter.

Plot elements finally starting to lead to a conclusion organically and yet in a totally unexpected way.
This is what I have been waiting for! The big Mission, the overarching Story, the... upcoming strike-filled hiatus? Oh.

Previews for next week. One of these things is not like the other...
I had the exact same reaction. I am pretty sure that was ot a burning question on anyone's mind. And if it was, it is so far down on the totem pole that it barely merited inclusion in the promo.

7th-Nov-2007 05:44 am (UTC)
After her actions at the end of the episode, I am not so sure about that.
See, I actually had a looooong paragraph ranting about Claire and how I was now totally, officially, completely done with her because she is a chowderhead. But I realized I had finally broken down and ranted about Parkman, and I'd complained about Peter being stupid, and Mohinder's power of mesmerization had slipped enough that I'd complained about him, and...well, I'd done a lot of complaining. I am considering doing a separate "You're An Idiot, Claire Ben-utler" post.

I am doing it all backwards! That is the scene that convinced me he has to be a Company plant!
Actually, I have since considered that maybe he was indeed just pretending to be scared, so that he could upset Claire and make it even easier to manipulate her. All I know is that he's a creepy stalker creep and I want him to go away.

When he shows up in a scene, you never know which one you are going to get. This reminds me of another (>rarely seen and sorely missed) character who I think we both have a soft spot for.
Mr. Muggles? No?...
7th-Nov-2007 06:18 am (UTC)
..well, I'd done a lot of complaining.
I did the same thing, and then I felt kind of bad. But I let it in anyway, because that is what I do. (That being "complain" and "never delete anything once it is written".)

I am considering doing a separate "You're An Idiot, Claire Ben-utler" post.
I eagerly await this, as, instead of continuing to complain about her on a weekly basis, I will just link to it and say "Read This."

All I know is that he's a creepy stalker creep and I want him to go away.
I think we can all agree on this. Well, all of us not named Claire Butler.

Mr. Muggles? No?...
Now you're just beig crazy! You know I am talking about Costa Verde High's very own Random Snarky Science Teacher. Oh how I miss that guy!

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